Madhavi Glick i know this may be a personal question to ask, so you can answer if you like. but i have heard that madhava maharaj and you disagree on Gurudeva's treatments. and that madhava maharaj wants to treat with allopathic and you are... more inclined... to natural medicine. if this is the case, i wanted to see if it would be possible to speak with madhav maharaj directly. i dont know if it would help any, but at least to share some experience and knowledge i have and perhaps...if any difference is made..then it could be good. but as i said, i am not sure. just something i heard and it's up to you to share or not.[11:34:33 AM] brajanath dasa: Sripad Madahava Maharaja and me agree and disagree at times, but we always remain respectful and affectionate[11:35:23 AM] brajanath dasa: he does his level best to avoid allopathic medicines but sometimes it is not possible[11:36:47 AM] brajanath dasa: he gives the medicines and I try to find substitutes, replacement in herbal sector; he also prefers naturapothy, homeopathy and ayur veda[11:39:50 AM] madhavi: i see. i just wanted to speak with you directly. rumors always floating around and it seems no one really knows or some are making opinions. i would rather get to the source. some devotees are concerned that Gurudeva is being woken up every 3 hours for allopathic medicine and it's unfavorable...i know everyone is in pain and part of that causes blame and worry and they want to do something for Gurudeva. so as i hear things i ask you and try to share with others[11:42:02 AM] brajanath dasa: we have had to adjust to the situation, so now we allow Srila Gurudeva to sleep as much as he likes and needs[11:42:08 AM] brajanath dasa: we do not wake him up[11:42:53 AM] brajanath dasa: and he is taking only 2 or 3 allopathic medicines - these essential for his heart condition[11:43:22 AM] madhavi: i heard that he was given oxycotin[11:43:34 AM] brajanath dasa: no, no never[11:43:58 AM] madhavi: that tamopaha prabhu gave him once for pain and he slept a lot[11:44:15 AM] brajanath dasa: he gets a herbal pain killer which also cures and helps in all matters[11:44:35 AM] brajanath dasa: that was once only and it was 1/4 th of a pill[11:44:51 AM] brajanath dasa: before we had the alternative, herbal pain killer[11:49:11 AM] madhavi: thank you for sharing all this with me prabhu. the devotees are just weeping and waiting for news and asking so many details about care and what is happening. on one hand they know that this is Gurudeva's lila and in Krsna's hand. but within their hearts it is not enough. They want details on every treatment, and what is happening on a day to day basis. they ask why he cannot get surgery or be in a place that is better than delhi with better air, quiet etc. i know you are so busy serving in so many ways and going through your own grief and worry. this is a lot for all of us. any details at any time that i can share and send out. even like a daily twitter, a few lines about gurudeva and what is happening would be a great relief to the devotees here. especially the ones that cannot come to be in india now, like myself.[11:54:10 AM] brajanath dasa: you may convey our chats[11:54:13 AM] brajanath dasa: share[11:54:46 AM] brajanath dasa: Gurudeva wants to be in Math always, especially in this condition[11:55:22 AM] brajanath dasa: and Madhava Maharaja and my self are so happy that we are not in hospital[11:55:48 AM] brajanath dasa: they cannot do anything for improvement[11:55:59 AM] brajanath dasa: they can only increase suffering[11:56:04 AM] brajanath dasa: in this condition[11:56:58 AM] brajanath dasa: why live longer if the quality of your life is so bad that you are incapable to function?[11:57:06 AM] brajanath dasa: this is what hospital can offer[12:00:00 PM] madhavi: i agree hostpital is not good. and i believe alopathic medicine is for emergency use, it is not geared toward rejuvenation, prevention nor healing. it is invasive and often times does much harm even when there is a seemingly good result.[12:02:35 PM] madhavi: no one wants Gurudeva to be suffering. everyone wants him well and healthy. having good communication with devotees and helping them feel that Gurudeva is being cared for in the best way possible is so important. but not empty reassurance. there are many mixed reports coming from india from the devotees there. some say it is chaos, that everyone is sick, that Gurudeva is being forced medicine and throwing up...other things like i mentioned previously. Other letters are coming out how Gurudeva is more in internal awareness, not speaking at all. but that all facility and care is there for him and the best doctors are there and he is receiving wonderful care and treatment.[12:03:12 PM] madhavi: There is much discrepancy in what is being expressed by devotees there. it is confusing and painful. but all have best intentions of course in their love for Gurudeva.[12:06:42 PM] brajanath dasa: you are correct[12:07:04 PM] brajanath dasa: that is why I give an update once in every 3 to 4 days only
Madhavi Glick [10/8/2010 11:42:30 PM] madhavi: i heard that Gurudeva has swollen legs, and that means the cancer has spread to the liver?[10/8/2010 11:43:37 PM] madhavi: and that he has requested many times to go to govardhana.[10/8/2010 11...:44:03 PM] ma...dhavi: i received some phone calls today, with worried devotees.[10/8/2010 11:44:23 PM] madhavi: now i am more worried....how is Gurudeva?[10/8/2010 11:50:18 PM] madhavi: i don't know what to tell them[10/8/2010 11:50:52 PM] brajanath dasa: no swollen legs[10/8/2010 11:50:55 PM] brajanath dasa: no swollen hands[10/8/2010 11:51:05 PM] brajanath dasa: it was there for half a day[10/8/2010 11:51:11 PM] brajanath dasa: 3 days ago[10/8/2010 11:51:25 PM] brajanath dasa: if needed we will go to Govardhan at once[10/8/2010 11:51:49 PM] brajanath dasa: we all want to go to Govardhan[10/8/2010 11:52:03 PM] madhavi: has he requested many times? they are saying his requests are being ignored[10/8/2010 11:53:09 PM] brajanath dasa: he has not requested[10/8/2010 11:53:21 PM] brajanath dasa: this[10/8/2010 11:53:32 PM] brajanath dasa: but we know that this is what he wants[10/8/2010 11:55:02 PM] madhavi: how is he today? half devotees are saying he is leaving, that he is in samadhi, unable to walk. not speaking at all. other devotees are saying that he is not speaking but that he is glowing, and they are feeling the possibility of healing.[10/8/2010 11:55:53 PM] brajanath dasa: he is weak and he will leave one day, hopefully after many, many years[10/8/2010 11:56:34 PM] madhavi: is he speaking at all?[10/8/2010 11:56:55 PM] brajanath dasa: yes, but not much[10/8/2010 11:57:07 PM] brajanath dasa: he is waiting for doctors[10/8/2010 11:57:19 PM] brajanath dasa: they will start arriving from today afternoon onwardsMadhavi Glick did you speak with Brajesh prabhu?[12:10:40 AM] brajanath dasa: not yet[12:13:47 AM] madhavi: he spoke with an expert homeopathic physician, she travels the world teaching and treating people with those specific medicines that we just order...ed. she has a lot of experience, he said he would be on skype to share with you.[12:18:38 AM] madhavi: i just sent him an email. i hope they can help.[1:59:06 AM] madhavi: did the blood tests come back yet prabhu?[1:59:50 AM] brajanath dasa: some have come[2:00:05 AM] brajanath dasa: main one will come in about 4 hours from now[2:00:42 AM] madhavi: oh i wish i could stay up that late! i will leave skype on. if you will be so merciful as to send me any results[2:00:50 AM] madhavi: what did the ones that came say?[2:01:27 AM] brajanath dasa: these were very good[2:01:37 AM] madhavi: what were they for?[2:01:45 AM] madhavi: i mean what did they test for?[2:03:29 AM] brajanath dasa: liver function and level of sugar, hemoglobin, sodium, potassium etc[2:04:06 AM] madhavi: and you say they were good, good for his condition? or good overall?[2:04:22 AM] brajanath dasa: better than mine[2:04:41 AM] madhavi: really![2:06:47 AM] madhavi: so that is a good sign, right?[2:06:59 AM] madhavi: but still his condition is weak.[2:09:31 AM] brajanath dasa: we will wait for the other result today[2:09:58 AM] brajanath dasa: he rests a lot and takes only little bit of what we offer him[2:10:19 AM] madhavi: the other result will be about the cancer?[2:10:26 AM] madhavi: specifically?[2:10:28 AM] brajanath dasa: yes[2:11:20 AM] madhavi: is there a goal, of where the doctors would like him to be as far as the numbers go? like last time he was 2.2. do they hope he has gone down a minimum number of points to show that the treatments are working?[2:12:02 AM] brajanath dasa: we want to see decrease[2:12:29 AM] brajanath dasa: then we know that this is a good sign[2:13:31 AM] madhavi: well i am sure everyone is praying for this and weeping.
radhe!
radhe!
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